From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.blogging Subject: RE: [Emacsweblogs] i18n Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:56:07 -0800 Message-ID: <0B0F20F17689462CA495798B348F923D@us.oracle.com> References: <1e7a74211001281954h1295a717id942a4405dc98b25@mail.gmail.com><87vdekbt60.fsf@everybody.org><1e7a74211001310729s6b0c506cv41cdea9b19274fba@mail.gmail.com><87fx5l8kat.fsf@everybody.org> <877hqxqqxz.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265050668 30252 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 18:57:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "'Mark A. Hershberger'" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacsweblogs@nongnu.org, 'smc' To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 19:57:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc1Sy-00077M-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:57:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc1Sx-0007mA-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc1Ss-0007jP-7M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44982 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc1Sr-0007im-RV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc1Sq-00076R-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:27837) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc1Sp-00075w-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o11IvJUU007913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:57:21 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o11EA01F016252; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:57:18 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 4709541265050569; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:56:09 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:56:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcqjV+TT0Z1lXb3zQLWdQ6mPC/33zwAFlitg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4B67240F.01BB:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120787 gmane.emacs.blogging:90 Archived-At: > It would be easy to change the reader such that _"foo" is > automatically read as (_ "foo"), just like we do for 'foo -> (quote foo). Oh sure. And break existing code. It might be easy to change the reader to do that. But why? What's really gained by such a change? Lisp (in general) has always read + eval'd a sexp such as (list 'foo_"bar") to produce the list (foo_ "bar"). You would have it return (foo (_ "bar"))? Caveat: I haven't followed this thread. I thought the question was about markup. Why would a feature request for markup make us want to change the Lisp reader? Apologies if I misunderstand the suggestion.