From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Purcell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MELPA version numbers Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:58:34 +0100 Message-ID: <09A65E9C-9B66-4925-AA4C-F07523248CCD@sanityinc.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375459643 11546 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2013 16:07:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sebastian Wiesner , Donald Curtis , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 02 18:07:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V5Hsy-0001CM-30 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:07:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53074 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5Hsx-0006NI-DC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:07:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5HkZ-0001n1-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 11:58:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5HkU-0000HJ-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 11:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from h1189701.stratoserver.net ([85.214.32.38]:56119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5HkT-0000HA-SW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 11:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.102] (host81-152-63-184.range81-152.btcentralplus.com [81.152.63.184]) by h1189701.stratoserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D702820013; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:58:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 85.214.32.38 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:07:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162382 Archived-At: On 2 Aug 2013, at 16:47, Stefan Monnier = wrote: >>> No, it doesn't really solve the problem: most people wouldn't know = when >>> MELPA's version is out of date. How would you know to switch = archive if >>> package.el doesn't tell you that there's a newer version in the >>> "gnu" archive? >> How exactly can that happen given that MELPA *always* builds VCS >> snapshots, with are *by definition* the most recent state of a >> package? >=20 > Steve asks similarly: >> Can that even happen, for longer than a MELPA build cycle? >=20 > Well, it can happen (and has happened, IIRC I saw it for csv-mode, tho > it seems to be fixed now) because MELPA gives you the latest revision = of > the DVCS branch it point at, but that branch may be abandoned. Yes, that would be a fault in MELPA's recipe; we've typically corrected = this promptly when it has arisen previously, but I agree that there's no = easy way to detect this situation. -Steve=