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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250387 Archived-At: On 15.05.2020 10:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 06:46:02 +0300 >> Cc:joostkremers@fastmail.fm,ams@gnu.org,Emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,pcr910303@icloud.com,phillip.lord@russet.org.uk >> >> the FAQ explanation is pretty good. > Except that they fly in the face of what Stefan said and what "the > majority of users" out there think. Why is that? Could you clarify what you mean? Is it that passage? GNU packages that are available for use with Emacs, but are distributed separately from Emacs itself, for reasons of space, etc They are indeed "available to use" and "distributed separately".