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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: A widget-based version of find-cmd
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:28:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0884798f-d83e-4b85-a0dd-fa87833488aa@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871s0ap9g7.fsf@web.de>

> > One of the advantages of a dialog box in such contexts
> > is setting it and reusing it for multiple search actions
> > (interspersed with other, non-search actions).
> 
> Currently it's only planned to let the buffers stay alive.  I dunno if I
> can save a buffer showing arbitrary widgets?  I guess I would have to
> create the widget view from an internal representation, preferably in
> the format of a "find" call or the s-exp format used by find-cmd.

Keeping the buffer is fine.  That's essentially what
I meant.  A user can access the same buffer later, and
just reuse whatever choices were already filled out.

> What I want to have is an export to these formats so that you can save
> the results in these forms.  I guess the reverse should not be too hard.

I didn't really mean save persistently.  That would be
a plus - could also be useful.  But what I had in mind
was just the fact that the buffer can be kept and reused.

The ability to reuse a whole bunch of settings is an
advantage that is not really available from having
instead completed a whole bunch of inputs.

For completion we have only completion/minibuffer
histories.  And even if someone saves such histories
for possible reuse, the entries are not organized
together, as a coherent set of, say, search attributes.
 
> > In fact, that's about the only advantage I find for such a dialog box.
> 
> Another advantage is that it can help you to remember what you have
> forgotten.  I for example repeatedly forget that e.g. for
> 
>        -ctime n File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago.  See the
>               comments for -atime to under‐ stand how rounding affects
>               the interpretation of file status change times.
> 
> what I want is
> 
>        -n     for less than n,
> 
> e.g. -ctime -1 for "status changed since last day" but I tend to try
> with -ctime 1 and wonder why it fails until I remember that I need "-".
> With the widget based version I can force the user to think about the
> sign by making it mandatory (with a reasonable default).

Yes.  Completion can also do that, but much less conveniently.

> > > I think you're looking for the `lazy` widget.
> >
> > Or maybe just split it up, having part of it use `repeat'?
> 
> `lazy' is perfect.  AFAIU `repeat' won't do since the syntax of "find"
> is actually recursive, so there is no way to avoid recursive widgets.

OK; makes sense.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-03 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31  2:15 A widget-based version of find-cmd Michael Heerdegen
2019-06-03 19:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-03 20:41   ` Drew Adams
2019-06-03 22:53     ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-06-03 23:28       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-06-13 23:35         ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-05 15:04           ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-05 17:10             ` Drew Adams
2019-09-05 21:26               ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-06 12:39             ` local binding ineffective inside widget Stefan Monnier
2019-09-06 14:10               ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-24  9:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-06-03 22:40   ` A widget-based version of find-cmd Michael Heerdegen

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