From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: autoload failure Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <076301c4becb$657c4ce0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <20041027.153921.207585531.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> <418024BE.9080007@wyrdrune.com> <20041029.093701.207586096.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> <074201c4bebf$dce3e3d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099173450 3864 80.91.229.6 (30 Oct 2004 21:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guy@wyrdrune.com, Emacs Devel , Stefan , Tak Ota Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 30 23:57:13 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CO1Dl-00021H-00 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:57:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CO1Lf-0008DX-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CO1LV-0008Cs-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CO1LU-0008CT-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CO1LU-0008CQ-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.116] (helo=av9-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CO1DN-0000KD-E6; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: by av9-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id AAEC037EC7; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.163]) by av9-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B78137E6B; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t4o58p112.telia.com [195.252.57.112]) by smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 03F1E37E46; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Jason Rumney" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29190 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29190 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Rumney" : It is quite early in the bootstrap process and I don't know how many : dependancies w32-fns.el will pull in, and whether Emacs is ready to : load those dependencies before the autoloads file is generated. In what ways could this disturb the building process? Could it be disturbed even if loading w32-fns.el succeeds? : You are welcome to try though. I will try. But it takes me some time on this computer ;-( : > I believe that with a small change in convert-standard-filename we could : > also make it possible to use MSYS to build Emacs. (Just look for : > "/\\(a-zA-Z\\)/".) : : Does MSYS fail at the same point? (It fails right at the start for me, : so I think there is more work than just that). Yes, it fails at the same point I believe. It does not fail exactly in the same way, but still at the same point. Actually MSYS avoids half of the problem I believe, but it does not help. (The filename that is a single argument is given to Emacs in w32 format, but the one inside eval is not. There is no way for MSYS to do that - unless it understands elisp ;-) It however hangs right at the beginning if not the GNU make that comes with MSYS is used. The problem is that make calls "cmd echo" in that case. I do not know how MSYS makes avoids this, but it does not hang. (Maybe it sends "cmd /c echo" which would be correct? Documentation for MSYS is not very extensive.) - Lennart