From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112347:*doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi(defcustom, defun, simplified-beginning-of-buffer, defvar, Building Robots, Review, save-excursion): `defun' and `defcustom' are now macrosratherthanspecial forms. (Bug#13853) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:35:02 -0700 Message-ID: <0757A72B65E348E1B7ABE40427795280@us.oracle.com> References: <87obd8rnk1.fsf@yandex.ru><51741E72.8030204@yandex.ru><87zjwrzp7h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp><3B0CD440B41A4F329FBB5E7C2EE0457B@us.oracle.com> <87y5cbz7g3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366594531 9812 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2013 01:35:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'xfq' , 'Dmitry Gutov' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 22 03:35:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UU5fH-0001Hm-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:35:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU5fH-0003Tp-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:35:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46943) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU5fB-0003Tk-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU5f7-0004xO-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:39256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU5f7-0004xG-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:35:21 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r3M1ZIMC013844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:35:19 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3M1ZG7p025962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:35:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3M1ZGtL013228; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:35:16 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.160.120) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:35:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac4+97Eiy9ASsiTxTMCsf4tzJOcW/AAAbUhg In-Reply-To: <87y5cbz7g3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159099 Archived-At: > > (functionp 'foo) => t > > If it returns t in any Emacs in which macros are not funcall'able, > functionp is buggy (unless the docstring was also changed, but that > seems unlikely). A better test is whether `(funcall 'foo nil)' > errors. Yes, not to worry. It raises an error in Emacs 21 and 20: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-function (macro lambda (a) 42)) foo(nil) funcall(foo nil)