From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: autoload failure Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:34:19 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <074201c4bebf$dce3e3d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <20041027.153921.207585531.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> <418024BE.9080007@wyrdrune.com> <20041029.093701.207586096.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099168513 2067 80.91.229.6 (30 Oct 2004 20:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guy@wyrdrune.com, Tak Ota , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 30 22:34:54 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CNzw6-0006cw-00 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:34:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CO040-0001i8-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:43:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CO03u-0001gN-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:42:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CO03t-0001gB-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CO03t-0001g8-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.112] (helo=av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CNzvU-0006IN-87; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8B1FE38300; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:34:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.163]) by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDDF381AC; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:34:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t3o58p91.telia.com [195.252.56.91]) by smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C52E37E4A; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:34:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Jason Rumney" , "Stefan" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29187 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29187 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Rumney" To: "Stefan" Cc: ; "Tak Ota" ; Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: autoload failure : Stefan writes: : : >> The path "/cygdrive/d/pub/emacs" is not valid on Windows. It is an : >> indication that you are using Cygwin make, which the docs explicitly : >> say to avoid for this reason. : > : > I really think it would be more constructive to add a file-name-handler : > for "/cygdrive/" seeing how common this kind of problem is (it might at : > least save us some time replying to such email). : : Its there already I beleive: : : 2001-10-29 Sam Steingold : : * w32-fns.el (convert-standard-filename): Handle cygwin-specific : "/cygdrive/LETTER/" pathnames. : : : The problem is that this is happening during bootstrap, when : w32-fns.el is not loaded yet. Stefans idea sounded like a very good one to me - and it probably is since it is already used ;-) I do not know the limitations here since I have no clear picture of the bootstrap process yet, but could not w32-fns.el be explicitly loaded on w32? What we are talking about is maybe only one call in lisp\makefile: autoloads: loaddefs.el doit @echo Directories: $(WINS) $(emacs) -l autoload \ --eval $(ARGQUOTE)(setq find-file-hooks nil \ find-file-suppress-same-file-warnings t \ generated-autoload-file \ $(DQUOTE)$(lisp)/loaddefs.el$(DQUOTE))$(ARGQUOTE) \ -f batch-update-autoloads $(lisp) $(WINS) I think that fixing this would make people much less confused when they are trying to build on w32. And this gives more time to do useful work. I believe that with a small change in convert-standard-filename we could also make it possible to use MSYS to build Emacs. (Just look for "/\\(a-zA-Z\\)/".) A message from Earnie Boyd (MSYS maintainer?) convinced me that it might be worth the time to look a bit deeper into the problems with using MSYS so I did this. I again now believe that MSYS also could be an easy to use build environment for Emacs. I will come back on this later. - Lennart