From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AltGr finger twisters documented? Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: <0726706D-47B7-4BFC-A960-2C5EE59DA7B3@swipnet.se> References: <42CA7E70.7040308@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120572337 17449 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2005 14:05:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 16:05:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpo2g-0001Qa-V1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:04:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpo3w-0002lf-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:06:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpo29-0001up-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpo1u-0001nk-Nb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dpo1u-0001mO-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.73] (helo=mxfep02.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dpo4Y-0005ln-3V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([83.226.180.210] [83.226.180.210]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050705140033.XRK21194.mxfep02.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:00:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <42CA7E70.7040308@student.lu.se> Original-To: Lennart Borgman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40426 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40426 >>> After an exchange of comments on the Emacs wiki, that left me =20 >>> wondering... >>> >>> Is there any place in the Emacs documentation that explains that you >>> *can* type C-M-@, C-@, C-M-\, C-\ and C-] on an AltGr-challenged >>> keyboard, *provided* that you use the right order, i.e., AltGr, =20 >>> right >>> Ctrl, and then the modified key? >>> >>> For example, on my Spanish keyboard: >>> >>> C-M-@ =3D> AltGr RCtrl Alt 2 >>> C-@ =3D> AltGr RCtrl 2 >>> C-M-\ =3D> AltGr RCtrl Alt =BA >>> C-\ =3D> AltGr RCtrl =BA >>> C-] =3D> AltGr RCtrl + >>> >>> It is non-obvious: it doesn't work if you press other key before >>> AltGr, or if you use left control. >>> >> >> >> >> I suspect this is keyboard dependent. I do C-\ all the time with =20= >> both right and left control, and I press Ctrl-AltGr-+ (hold down =20 >> all three keys at the same time, which I press first or last does =20= >> not matter) on my swedish keyboard (and add Alt to that, i.e. Alt-=20= >> Ctrl- AltGr-+, gets me M-C-\, but it is not very ergonomic). The =20 >> trick above does not work for me at all. >> > > What OS I you using? Which version of Emacs? Well, GNU/Linux in many flavors, FreeBSD, Solaris, MacOSX (but there =20 I have no idea how to get C-\). A very recent (a few days old) CVS =20 Emacs. Jan D.