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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264661 Archived-At: On 13.02.2021 23:05, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Backwards compatibility is certainly nice, but I don't think it's a > priority when doing Emacs Lisp language design. *shrug* I don't see a lot of downsides to doing it the backward compatible way here, and some forward-looking package maintainers could help promote the new feature. If it's not backward-compatible at all, however, I wouldn't feel comfortable with using it in my packages for years to come.