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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pdumping "into" the executable
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:22:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05c667d7-ad68-925b-75e6-5834ee528aa6@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae23fe0a-9973-45ba-fa29-35146b822971@cs.ucla.edu>

On 12/31/1969 04:00 PM, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 02/26/2018 01:18 PM, dancol@dancol.org wrote:
>>> Or, just turn the dump to a C file, then compile it
>>> and do a second link.  Aside from (maybe hypothetical) C compiler
>>> limits, that would be very portable.
>> But not redumpable.
> 
> Why couldn't it be redumpable? All that the user should need is a C 
> compiler. That's not unreasonable.

I thought we had this argument back when we were talking about modules. 
I think it's unacceptable to require a C compiler and the presence of 
Emacs unlinked objects for the proper operation of an end-user feature.

>> Besides, the problem with a second link is that it might change the
>> relative positions of symbols within Emac
> 
> How could that be a problem? Symbols known to C code are known by their 
> fixed offsets and the second link wouldn't change these offsets, and 
> symbols not known to C code need to be reallocated anyway during loading.

The linker is what determines into-translation-unit offsets, not the 
compiler. The offsets are patched in at link time. There's no particular 
requirement to perform the link the same way every time.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-26 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-26 13:38 pdumping "into" the executable Stefan Monnier
2018-02-26 17:00 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-26 21:10   ` Tom Tromey
2018-02-26 21:18     ` dancol
2018-02-26 22:07       ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-26 22:22         ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2018-02-26 23:17           ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-26 23:34             ` dancol
2018-02-26 23:41               ` dancol
2018-02-27  0:09             ` Drew Adams
2018-02-27  0:16               ` dancol
2018-02-27  7:55                 ` John Wiegley
2018-02-27 13:47                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-27 14:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-27 18:32                     ` John Wiegley
2018-02-26 22:34     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-02-26 22:47       ` Daniel Colascione

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