From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Backward completions Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:26:23 -0800 Message-ID: <05821CF71EBB475785DCB69E986140D7@us.oracle.com> References: <61C01A08-8FB6-4908-B9F1-B9F1CE3E3D92@gmail.com><20091111212658.GD12012@headley><87fx8kjosa.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><7b501d5c0911120209x7c8f493fm68fadef6f1311206@mail.gmail.com><87bpj16pkh.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87tywsz9lb.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><33D4DB11B8C64C4CBF50DEDCA3CE7932@us.oracle.com><87k4xn4tmz.fsf@mail.jurta.org><873a4bf0hz.fsf@mail.jurta.org><2C9382D7ABB64FD3890CF3482EFA3253@us.oracle.com> <87y6m1t96x.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258752410 7987 80.91.229.12 (20 Nov 2009 21:26:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Lennart Borgman' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 22:26:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBb06-0008AW-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:26:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37586 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBb06-0005sU-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:26:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBb01-0005sA-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:26:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBazw-0005rR-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:26:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47962 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBazw-0005rO-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:26:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:32259 helo=rgminet12.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBazw-0003SI-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:26:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAKLQOxv020191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:26:26 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAKL5Ib8020489; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:26:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 508854331258752384; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:26:24 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.185.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:26:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87y6m1t96x.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: AcpqBw2pMOmlp9cVSAWgo2S6UXbrAAAIDuBw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4B070983.003D:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117380 Archived-At: > > In general, it makes sense to use a key for this that is typically > > associated with switching windows or buffers (e.g. `C-x > > o'), not a key that is typically associated with scrolling (e.g. > > `M-v' or `prior' aka `PgUp'). > > Please don't forget that *Completions* can be invoked not only from > the minibuffer, but from any buffer that supports completions (via > `lisp-complete-symbol', etc.) True. > So we can't steal `C-v' and `M-v' as completions scrolling > keys instead of their normal meaning. You can for the minibuffer use, in any case. And I wouldn't be surprised if `C-x o' worked in the other cases, so `C-x o C-v' etc. And perhaps `C-M-v' (`scroll-other-window') works also - dunno. > Also `M-v' doesn't work for switching to > *Completions* from normal buffers. Don't know what you mean here. Why "also"? I thought your first point was that a minibuffer binding for M-v won't affect the non-minibuffer uses. And of course M-v doesn't switch buffers - it scrolls the current buffer. > So we need a separate dedicated key > to switch to *Completions* from any buffer. Such a "need" doesn't follow.