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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273782 Archived-At: On 03.09.2021 15:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> There, you have already a list of options to include in a suitably >>> named "profile". Why not add that to Emacs right now? >> What would it be called? > I don't know, but I don't think the name is the main issue. The main > issue is to identify the settings many people would like to change, > then try to group them in some reasonable way. It *is* an issue. The problem with variables with indent-tabs-mode and require-final-newline is they affect Emacs's behavior in ways that aren't apparent to a new user, or to a beginner programmer. And then they can cause problems for the teammates who aren't even using Emacs. Having a profile unassumingly called "Dmitry Gutov's Preferences" (who would want to enable THAT, right?), which would need to be enabled to avoid these issues, is a usability problem.