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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274649 Archived-At: On 13.09.2021 15:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 14:51:32 +0300 >> >>> We decided to use this style in plain-text documentation long ago. >> >> IME code comments are not the same as plain-text documentation. > > Then what does? I don't understand the question. > The only place where we must leave `..' alone is in > doc strings, everything else is fair play. I think I have explained how changing comments this way breaks useful functionality. >> Aside from highlighting, we have other code that relies on unambiguous >> markup. Emacs Lisp completion code also enters "symbol completion" mode >> (so to speak) after you type '`', allowing one to more easily input an >> existing symbol. > > I didn't say anything about completion text. > >>> Comments, NEWS, PROBLEMS, DEBUG, commit log messages (thus the >>> generated ChangeLog files), and any other form of plain-text >>> documentation. >> >> Having docstring markup in plain comments is fairly common across >> languages, I think. > > Again, I don't see how this is relevant to the issue at hand. References in docstrings ~ references in comments. With the same syntax. `...' is our docstring syntax for references.