From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Text Mode Menu Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <03daa71f-45fc-4800-b75d-0f81c23a2485@default> References: <20131005021456.GA22666@jo.hnanthony.com> <71dde3f7-c8ae-4aa8-904f-f72ce90e3d33@default> <20131007154710.GA32758@jo.hnanthony.com> <20131007194113.GA809@jo.hnanthony.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381178679 22040 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2013 20:44:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Anthony Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 07 22:44:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTHfO-0007l3-SJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:44:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33434 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTHfN-00077l-Cw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTHfC-00076n-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:44:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTHf3-0004i1-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:49216) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTHf3-0004hp-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r97KiCPM018310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:44:12 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97KiB7E012715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:44:11 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97KiBX0012709; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:44:11 GMT In-Reply-To: <20131007194113.GA809@jo.hnanthony.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163970 Archived-At: > I'll be honest; I find the menu implementations of all the major > and minor modes to be frankly horribly inconsistant. I suspect > this is something I should get used to. No, I hope you don't. ;-) That is, the fact that you notice such inconsistency and it bothers you is a *good* thing for Emacs. If you have the time, it is better to file a bug report/enhancement request (`M-x report-emacs-bug'), preferably with some concrete suggestions or even a patch or two, than it is to just adapt as a user to any such perceived Emacs weaknesses. It is good to find people particularly interested in the usability of Emacs menus. This has generally not been a super high priority among Emacs developers. But they will likely listen to your suggestions. But hurry, before you adapt to the status quo. ;-)