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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252596 Archived-At: On 6/30/20 9:58 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > A broken compiler can fail to build a program, which is not a > catastrophe It can also quietly build the wrong program, which can be catastrophic. > how do we make the effort of preparing the manuals and > NEWS for a release less time-consuming? A method that works reasonably well in other projects is to update manuals and NEWS as we go, not just before a release. For starters, I suggest removing the "+++/---" notation in NEWS, which encourages the bad practice of documentation not matching code.