From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Translating the Emacs website Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 04:33:05 +0000 Message-ID: <0363C40A-8A91-4FE2-BB6F-74983D827BFF@traductaire-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24973"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nicolas@petton.fr To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 03 05:34:16 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rgdYF-0006ID-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2024 05:34:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgdXU-0001qO-MA; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 23:33:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgdXT-0001pg-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 23:33:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch ([185.70.40.136]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgdXP-0001K6-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 23:33:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=traductaire-libre.org; s=protonmail; t=1709440397; x=1709699597; bh=w/qZq/j1IWAvfHVav8fgc499awy2wPj7fOm5wa/xcLA=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=aea6P0KndOWP/j/7mwi6Fj0WKhJgZsNcZ9vcrCTNXW+YV9f/otjKvs5IDASbyKpz8 bJkbJ+5AInt415e6vBY4UPxVLgWOVmcJfkcRbb0tY0KK4cEm/MW5ik9mK0IIZqdU/k oH8RKU50Lm5p+OI6R9aMdnC5GxCGJZQqMKnnp8+nBPwJl1jJ3UtA88BBAD8a/+vt3g RftMhnVKT/keoJngcjyNWzPvEK7MLC9DxLU4YRWSbtTw5rKGRKIA+VsYXf9YRZ5pMk BfmwwbgCUb7y4kHU0Nj4NZ6ee5mbdUy/UJqGSPo4xZygpBW727qjo1mC0hFVuhP27T vxJWIg0sjXO8Q== Feedback-ID: 92162971:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.136; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traductaire-libre.org; helo=mail-40136.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: 4 X-Spam_score: 0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.4 / 5.0 requ) AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS=2.499, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316720 Archived-At: It seems to me that before we start working on the manuals, a good=20 entry point could be the web site. It would also be a nice way to properly introduce the fact that we have=20 a full-fledged localised tutorial inside Emacs (I know it is referenced=20 on the page, but there are probably other ways we can use its contents). To go back to the discussion about using PO or not, it seems like the=20 GNU project web page translations use PO files: https://www.gnu.org/server/standards/README.translations.html#tools The tool that=E2=80=99s used to convert the files to PO is called GNUN=20 (GNUnited Nations): https://www.gnu.org/software/trans-coord/manual/gnun/gnun.html GNUN only works with HTML. So the question is, how do we organise the Emacs page translation?=20 Should it be handled by the GNU Project translation teams?=20 There seems to be a lot of reference documents regarding web=20 translations: Guide to Translating Web Pages on www.gnu.org https://www.gnu.org/server/standards/README.translations.html GNU Web Translators Manual https://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/trans-coord/manual/web-trans/htm= l_node/index.html How to Translate Using PO Files https://www.gnu.org/server/standards/translations/po-how-to.html Note: adding =E2=80=9C/po/=E2=80=9D does not seem to produce the right effe= ct on the Emacs pages: https://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/emacs/po/emacs.pot does not exist. Any idea? --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @jchelary@emacs.ch https://sr.ht/~brandelune/