From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering emojis Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 10:27:32 +0200 Message-ID: <0353A9DA-0041-4D71-8E1B-09FB07A5FD0F@acm.org> References: <87cznths5j.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgqxymd3.fsf@gnu.org> <878rygj4gt.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnm0zz0q.fsf@gnu.org> <874k94j3rn.fsf@gnus.org> <83v91kzydh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuh4holf.fsf@gnus.org> <822aec9d01909cecfc6c@heytings.org> <87a6iwhltf.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuh4zfg5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y26gfobr.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuh4f1ie.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.21\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30488"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 27 10:28:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mfeIk-0007jJ-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 10:28:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54954 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfeIj-0008T8-5i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 04:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfeHh-0007i9-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 04:27:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail157c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.10.167]:40800 helo=mail51c50.megamailservers.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfeHe-0006IC-ME for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 04:27:44 -0400 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1635323255; bh=cMCwxddIoeLtucLd4jcdLYDm1EH4OR6VjFxxf8YAwgU=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=bd6ftxeDTQSHa9YOSBCW0Ub9roFF1DFO2lPUfVZhBIAZcvFLmkaU9AGlPUISGXgmK fI4gbLIG2cNvJXIdnfjQwdZJqeUqgg7Jg5SLcOANCwz5l3kvihbhMY01Nz7Kz4+4Kk ylSDB6eHJWAyEt48oYXJHdhT0OH90w7mSTYA0WfY= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from [192.168.0.4] (c188-150-171-71.bredband.tele2.se [188.150.171.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail51c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 19R8RXol006989; Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:27:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F24.61790D77.0046, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.4 cv=Vr9Av86n c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=61790d77 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:117 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=-N4pnr4juA7SFqYn7XcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Origin-Country: SE Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=91.136.10.167; envelope-from=mattiase@acm.org; helo=mail51c50.megamailservers.eu X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277938 Archived-At: 26 okt. 2021 kl. 23.12 skrev Stefan Kangas : > I think that most users will just assume that emojis are broken and = move > on. Some of us think that they clearly are, and fundamentally so. It would be useful to have a 'literate-mode' where they would be = replaced with the empty string, a space, U+FFFD, a suitable hex escape, = or something else. A compromise would be to show them as monochrome = glyphs that respect the typographic metrics of the surrounding text.