From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:08:15 +0100 Message-ID: <035104e7-1ab7-c0fe-6352-a079ec07b751@online.de> References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6txigm1.fsf@gnus.org> <874kk5lzew.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87eej8ifll.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7o3k5b5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 Cc: Juri Linkov To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 11:09:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kuYPc-0002Ci-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:09:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42676 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuYPb-0003wZ-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:08:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuYP1-0003K6-Ls for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:34735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuYOz-0000gN-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.39] ([94.134.177.49]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOzCW-1kdyxA29Lo-00PLZA; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:08:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7o3k5b5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:F6BH4qSuIM9ZnG58IcbacL1F2iZJDhzW0w4XeFvW+Q5Y/VMwkA2 9Z03olGfLSGpYaoz9QLNODn1pnU8mADv3ePak0nJbtfLxBg1tT0oXl2rTD9XkPpLT0hQ97d CjS9h+GP9medNnPGEI+0CWMVnDGCxgFRkBUEuRcl+GvDzmpmSb1pgwTEg/secfdAVSu7uR8 ug5lGyDvKBtSeTCl0YPzg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LFGYJnQvJSc=:TVzzsv2ZMm/rjNcQOAkQlE iMKrMcxIEm3s10q1HQFpI2eV35EMRmh5wkqofKlWe1pL+FtSVtyqCSWwIIZZl/fEP7R4yncvw mGBmeHIGx9kJWtiKMqXPhmyw9jyJPlTGEt+8FH9O8QTIA0PEsEPY33NR784nccfPRLm53zir4 D4eqBmhTlMu19lUrQKgw9mZUbJZ5E5g3lnKFOJSXhUM10R2h6NEuq62LPycxyBNl0EyG7yjW7 KqD3qGgM0wQ/e9V80LgL41/fRcpE9GnII2aQZ1hbTVEKgAZPFWtquFoYJtRXhGiN8Bf9PGjbr YUSgWAjkMFsLpoMByhnPoK5xSj8Kdab2SeoCP7OiEb80QW9eQzbvcRSmDyFKYyb8i4bH2bzPz xeT3ejJAGApAziuaH/4YYUJGiVAjLxaYnT/DJKJGGBckQZ5WbGuTPWvytCJzfVuSpoxCfGq5p MJF3o40dtA== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.126.187; envelope-from=andreas.roehler@online.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, GAPPY_SUBJECT=0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.07, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262117 Archived-At: On 30.12.20 10:32, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> Ok, since everyone wants the old keybinding back, I'll restore >>> isearch-yank-pop to old code, and also add a new command >>> 'isearch-yank-from-kill-ring', but unbound because there is >>> no free key in isearch-mode. >> Not everyone and it is definitely not logical. > Thanks, now I see that not everyone wants the old keybinding back. > Maybe then on every use of old command we could display a message > that will suggest to use a better keybinding 'C-y' because to > hold the Control key, then type 's' and 'y' is easier than to > hold the Control key, type 's', release the Control key, > hold the Meta key, type 'y'. Then later we could bind > the new command to 'M-y' again. > With the old behavior could circle through kill-ring, in order to select the right one for C-s Now get the kill-ring-buffer, which feels kind of distracting. I.e., if circling, commonly know what I'm looking for, don't need a buffer displayed. After all, old behavior just feels more convenient.