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([2601:184:4180:66e7:9ded:7322:a320:d8bc]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i20sm14925668qkl.135.2020.04.16.10.03.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Apr 2020 10:03:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838siwhmco.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247103 Archived-At: On 15/04/2020 10.09, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Tim Cross >> For me, the only 'buttons' I see are the widget style buttons and these are not really buttons - >> they are really text 'fake' buttons. > > Not sure what you mean by "text fake buttons". We show a 3D > appearance on button widgets Sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. With my current emacs configuration, for example, I get buttons that look like this on graphical frames: Operate on all settings in this buffer: [ Revert... ] [ Apply ] [ Apply and Save ] I think this is due to custom-raised-buttons being nil, which happens if cus-edit gets loaded too early in an Emacs server, as in the following example: echo "(require 'cus-edit)" > ~/.emacs emacsclient --alternate-editor="" --create-frame In the resulting graphical frame, customize buffers won't use 3D buttons. Tim, what is the value of custom-raised-buttons in your session? Should I open a bug report?