From: "grischka" <grishka@gmx.de>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:45:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <030c01c75b73$9ee4a620$8144fe91@j4f3n1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvslcr6x7s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> A scrollbar is nothing more than a bunch of pixels that give
> you some rough idea of where you are (and how much of the
> rest there is left to see), along with some way to move with
> the use of a mouse.
Sounds like a somehow applicable description of scrolling
in emacs, to be honest.
> I believe that confining oneself strictly to some analogy to the physical
> world is just plain dumb. What's the benefit, concretely? No user has ever
> complained that she doesn't understand how Emacs scrollbars work just
> because they "slide off the end". When the thumb slides off the end, all
> users know immediately that it "has slid off the end": they understand it
> completely intuitively. Only GUI-nitpickers get annoyed that it doesn't
> conform to some model.
I have my doubts whether everybody sees it as you see it.
As you say one is not confined to one analogy exclusively.
Also I would not trust a developer with such things anyway.
Other than that I'm still curious to see all that work with
the intuitive Xaw features added on the scrollbar from the
other OS.
-- grischka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-28 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-21 0:24 vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows grischka
2007-02-21 8:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-21 14:02 ` grischka
2007-02-21 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-21 23:36 ` grischka
2007-02-26 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-27 19:19 ` grischka
2007-02-27 20:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-28 19:45 ` grischka [this message]
2007-02-28 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-28 20:01 grischka
2007-02-28 20:54 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-03-01 9:11 ` David Kastrup
[not found] <b5accf970702131432t76036b4erb72cbe4d86e11077@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <er4kem$ce7$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-02-19 14:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-19 16:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-19 22:39 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-19 23:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-19 23:16 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-19 17:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-02-19 22:54 ` Peter Tury
2007-02-22 15:07 ` Stephan Hennig
2007-02-22 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2007-02-22 16:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22 17:00 ` Stephan Hennig
2007-02-22 17:28 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22 23:35 ` Stefan Monnier
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