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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253765 Archived-At: 14 aug. 2020 kl. 08.02 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > We are assessing this from two very different points of view: you are > thinking about fixing the bug, and I'm thinking about the dangers of > some unintended consequences of the fix destabilizing Emacs 27.2's > version of Calc. By their very nature, unintended consequences are > unknown to you and to me, so asking for any specific details is not > useful. Sorry about the misunderstanding -- no malice intended. Version history = indicates that you were the one bringing Calc into the Emacs tree and = did quite some work on it at the time, so it would be daft to assume = that you didn't have good knowledge of the code. In other words, there = may very well be something you know about it that I could learn. However, I understand that you have made up your mind. Sorry about = wasting your time. (Moving Calc to ELPA would probably be beneficial to everyone, but given = the inevitable opposition to such a move, nothing I would propose = seriously.)