From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Andrus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Kickstarter for Emacs Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <02790451-79CC-4FCB-9794-98827A7AF439@gmail.com> References: <8D732A9A-AB26-4D7F-BAC6-EE901D575957@gmail.com> <8762cwpk05.fsf@gnu.org> <18788FF4-90BA-422C-A945-534959E9379D@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334907203 1304 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2012 07:33:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Dev To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 20 09:33:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SL8LI-0002BJ-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:33:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39961 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SL8LH-0006zo-M4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SL8L9-0006zD-Mz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SL8L7-0005l2-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:56771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SL8L7-0005kK-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: by bkwq16 with SMTP id q16so8721522bkw.0 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:33:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=v7t4UBsvAmQRjRr/lwESiKvxb+C/znPMtMztDM80h6s=; b=zD85p8kXLeiL3wcl/vV3q+sIXVUEpr3Bwn8UlwW7QzpO/hxnpOqgK1ZL7Fe2rjCVbI MdEqKCWtIM8DiU/4pWvKyVGESyhYP2l8feBvHQ3C/jy+XjBSHVD/rVLXlra/P4aM1JWx 3l1a9AidPr6K9WE57Rsn8/6TL+Vs3to/tTQIYqQsxgWub4Dk7zHzndPLTKvpklyPA5wz R2X6Ov3CqAqTe2xKgdy1saGqL1weJXAt6KNgQC19JQvIvFHzPm0O6irg2LeWKsnyRZiO tG/gEphyKH13OI7D3ltPrZwySDp/+5Zj2puq624+d+7KiEhbIJ71Wg11eISBP25IcKh5 IPZQ== Original-Received: by 10.204.156.148 with SMTP id x20mr1682943bkw.47.1334907187167; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.2.16] (catv-80-99-177-93.catv.broadband.hu. [80.99.177.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gu12sm8176502bkc.1.2012.04.20.00.33.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:33:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149852 Archived-At: On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> How much would it cost me to get the python modes combined into = one? >>> We cannot use python-mode.el because its copyright is not assigned = to >>> the FSF. >>> The good news is that Fabian Gallina's python.el, which apparently = works >>> extremely well, is landing in trunk soon. >> Gaaa! Will it be replacing the current python.el? >=20 > Yes. >=20 >> In a backwards compatible way? >=20 > Hopefully, yes. Fabian has not been particularly careful about that > aspect (e.g. lots of "gratuitous" renamings), so my "yes" really means > "backward incompatibilities will likely show up but will be treated as > bugs to the extent possible". Excellent. You just made my day! :-) > I.e. keep your eyes open for when the python.el changes and report any > problem so we can fix them promptly. Or maybe even ask try it out = right > away (https://github.com/fgallina/python.el) and work it out > with Fabian. I'll definitely keep my eyes open. And if I have some time I'll install = his version now. My python usage tends to go in spurts though. -Ivan=