From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 19:11:50 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0272A079-275E-42CB-9A27-2D10FB1D9A36@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20160101T095057-402@post.gmane.org>
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 17:57, Adrian Robert <Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> For all the other Mac applications (except Xquartz) Alt is used to
>> compose characters that are not by default in the keyboard layout. That's one of the very strong point of OSX machines by the way. On a standard JIS keyboard I can type French without having to change the layout, or English, or Japanese, out of the box.
>
> These are good points. Of course, the problem is whichever key you choose
> to be meta, you are giving up some OS defaults; it is just a question of
> which ones are more important for how many users.
Esc works by default as Meta. No need to interfere with the Alt/Option key behavior.
> But it would also be
> good to take a parallel approach to Emacs on other platforms. Currently
> under X or Windows, the Alt/Opt key goes to meta under Emacs, despite
> having other uses in the OS. But IIRC it is only done on one side, so the
> Alt key on the other is still available for character selection use. (And
> maybe menu shortcut use in Windows?)
That's where there are Left and Right keys. On laptops only the Left Alt/Option exists and is used for Compose.
> Would this be implementable in either the NS or Mac ports? And if so would
> it allow natural / acceptable use by European users?
I guess for keyboards where Right Alt/Option exist that key could be set as default, otherwise, stick to Esc and leave the Compose key as it is.
Jean-Christophe Helary
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-01 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-31 6:40 OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT Anders Lindgren
2015-12-31 7:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31 8:17 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-31 16:02 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-01 1:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-01 8:50 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2016-01-01 10:28 ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02 3:00 ` Random832
2016-01-02 6:02 ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02 6:17 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02 7:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-02 17:06 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-02 9:07 ` Random832
2016-01-03 7:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-01 8:57 ` Adrian Robert
2016-01-01 9:58 ` Random832
2016-01-01 10:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2015-12-31 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
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