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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 19:11:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0272A079-275E-42CB-9A27-2D10FB1D9A36@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20160101T095057-402@post.gmane.org>


> On Jan 1, 2016, at 17:57, Adrian Robert <Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> For all the other Mac applications (except Xquartz) Alt is used to
>> compose characters that are not by default in the keyboard layout. That's one of the very strong point of OSX machines by the way. On a standard JIS keyboard I can type French without having to change the layout, or English, or Japanese, out of the box.
> 
> These are good points.  Of course, the problem is whichever key you choose
> to be meta, you are giving up some OS defaults; it is just a question of
> which ones are more important for how many users.

Esc works by default as Meta. No need to interfere with the Alt/Option key behavior.

> But it would also be
> good to take a parallel approach to Emacs on other platforms.  Currently
> under X or Windows, the Alt/Opt key goes to meta under Emacs, despite
> having other uses in the OS.  But IIRC it is only done on one side, so the
> Alt key on the other is still available for character selection use.  (And
> maybe menu shortcut use in Windows?)

That's where there are Left and Right keys. On laptops only the Left Alt/Option exists and is used for Compose.

> Would this be implementable in either the NS or Mac ports?  And if so would
> it allow natural / acceptable use by European users?

I guess for keyboards where Right Alt/Option exist that key could be set as default, otherwise, stick to Esc and leave the Compose key as it is.

Jean-Christophe Helary 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-01 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-31  6:40 OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT Anders Lindgren
2015-12-31  7:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31  8:17   ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-31 16:02     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-01  1:40       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-01  8:50         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2016-01-01 10:28           ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02  3:00             ` Random832
2016-01-02  6:02               ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02  6:17                 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02  7:18                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-02 17:06                     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02  8:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-02  9:07                   ` Random832
2016-01-03  7:27               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-01  8:57         ` Adrian Robert
2016-01-01  9:58           ` Random832
2016-01-01 10:11           ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2015-12-31 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii

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