Key definitions and national keyboards

Key definitions and national keyboards

[Lennart Borgman]

Quite often I found I want to use something in Emacs that is bound to a key
I can't use on my swedish keyboard. For example indent-region might be on
C-M-\ and that is not accessible on a swedish keyboard.

What are your thoughts about these problems? Is there any thoughts on
language specifik keyboard files for adjusting things like that? Can it be
done?

- Lennart

Re: Key definitions and national keyboards

[Richard Stallman]

    Quite often I found I want to use something in Emacs that is bound to a key
    I can't use on my swedish keyboard. For example indent-region might be on
    C-M-\ and that is not accessible on a swedish keyboard.

Why is that?  Is there no way to type C-\?

    What are your thoughts about these problems? Is there any thoughts on
    language specifik keyboard files for adjusting things like that? Can it be
    done?

I think we can't afford to try to worry about these issues.

Re: Key definitions and national keyboards

[Lennart Borgman]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>


:     Quite often I found I want to use something in Emacs that is bound to
a key
:     I can't use on my swedish keyboard. For example indent-region might be
on
:     C-M-\ and that is not accessible on a swedish keyboard.
:
: Why is that?  Is there no way to type C-\?

Not as far as I can see.


:     What are your thoughts about these problems? Is there any thoughts on
:     language specifik keyboard files for adjusting things like that? Can
it be
:     done?
:
: I think we can't afford to try to worry about these issues.

I did, since I am using a swedish keyboard on a pc with AltGr ;-)

I have uploaded altgr.el to http://www.emacswiki.org/ with a workaround for
the problem. I just redefine keys which are on AltGr (like \) in
funktion-key-map to use another key when the keyboard event is modified is
modified with control or meta. There are structures in the file for entering
new language specific modifiers. I will encourage other users to enhance the
file with something suitable for their specific language keyboard.

I believe altgr.el could be loaded by the setup-function in
language-info-alist, but I do not know if this is the right place?

- Lennart

Re: Key definitions and national keyboards

[Richard Stallman]

I think it is fine if users work on ways to help people use
national keyboards.  I just don't think we should undertake
to support this in Emacs.