From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:05:14 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <01ef01c4bb7f$fc2217f0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098811197 12341 80.91.229.6 (26 Oct 2004 17:19:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 26 19:19:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMUz3-0000yz-00 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:19:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMV6k-0005sj-Tl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:27:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMV6Z-0005rH-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMV6Y-0005qS-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMV6Y-0005qJ-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.111] (helo=av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMUyh-00011z-6b; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: by av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 70FFE38239; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:19:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.163]) by av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A5237E4F; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:19:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t5o58p132.telia.com [195.67.196.132]) by smtp3-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 14BEB37E4B; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: , "Kim F. Storm" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28980 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Stallman" : Giving the user lots of options is no substitute for good design. : The problem here is to make Emacs behave in a way that users expect : without looking at documentation. Any solution that involves learning : about an option and setting it is automatically a failure. That is a very good point for UI design. This is also why the UI should behave the way users are acustomed to as far as possible. - Lennart