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From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:19:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c54b0a$Blat.v2.4$5b6307a0@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85hdhtf8ou.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:57:05 +0200)

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:57:05 +0200
> 
> Without looking at the code, it would be my guess that it would
> currently run immediately after redisplay, whereas my suggestion for
> jit-lock-defer-time=0 semantics would be that it be run immediately
> before redisplay.

I'm not sure what that means.  You _are_ aware that, when you scroll
thru text with C-n or C-v, there's almost nothing going on in Emacs
_except_ redisplay, yes?  That is, all C-n does is move point one
line; the rest is redisplay's job, including fontification.  (The
single most important new aspect of JIT lock as opposed to the old
lazy-lock and its ilk was that JIT lock uses special hooks of the
display engine, whereas the old, pre-v21 redisplay didn't have such
hooks, and so lazy-lock needed to jump through the hoops to hook into
every possible method of changing the displayed text.)

So when you are saying ``before redisplay'', what exactly do you mean?
Redisplay begins by computing the ``desired glyph matrix'', which is
an internal representation of what should be on the screen; surely,
before this happens, there's no way we could fontify the right portion
of the text, since we have no idea what that portion is.

> > And fontification of the visible portion will take time during which
> > one still sees unfontified text, anyway.
> 
> Not if it happens before redisplay. [...]
> 
> It would possibly make sense to implement this distinction in the
> context of run-with-idle-timer, and then let jit-lock-defer-time just
> use it by defaulting to -1.

Idle timers run when Emacs is idle, which by definition is _after_
redisplay did its job.  So I think you are talking about some nw
mechanism, which has nothing to do with how jit-lock-defer-time works
now.

> Again: I have not looked at the code.

Well, perhaps you should.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-27  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-23 16:16 C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 20:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-24 21:23   ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-24 21:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-26 10:05       ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-26 10:27         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 22:56           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-27  8:59             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-27  9:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-27 12:27                 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-27  9:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-28 11:00               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-26 18:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-26 21:38           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 22:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-26 22:57               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-27  9:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-04-27  9:43                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-27 10:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-27 11:32                       ` David Kastrup
2005-04-27 11:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-27 12:23                           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-27 12:32                           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-28 11:00                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-28 12:16                               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-28 11:00                         ` Richard Stallman

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