From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:00:14 +0300 Message-ID: <01c53cda$Blat.v2.4$4eb132e0@zahav.net.il> References: <87fyy3hvxl.fsf@jurta.org> <01c53c28$Blat.v2.4$1bd305e0@zahav.net.il> <87k6ndkv98.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113034822 27967 80.91.229.2 (9 Apr 2005 08:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 09 10:20:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKBCT-0001Mu-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:20:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKAiL-000744-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DKAgB-0006wg-5Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DKAfZ-0006VV-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:46:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKAf2-0006Gc-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:45:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DKAyV-0002r5-6L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 04:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretski (IGLD-83-130-244-206.inter.net.il [83.130.244.206]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id ECO55548 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:04:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Juri Linkov X-Mailer: emacs 22.0.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.4 In-reply-to: <87k6ndkv98.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:32:19 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35796 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35796 > Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:32:19 +0300 > > I was mislead by the "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." menu item. > I thought that "Emacs Tutorial" always selects the English tutorial while > "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." selects a tutorial in any language. > > The fact that English menu item "Emacs Tutorial" can select a non-English > tutorial is misleading too. Ideally the menu item "Emacs Tutorial" > should be translated into the same language whose tutorial it selects. > This requires support for multi-language menus. Until multi-language menus are supported, perhaps we should change the menu item to say Emacs Tutorial (in YOUR-LANGUAGE) where YOUR-LANGUAGE stands for the language name. This should be done only for those languages that indeed have a translated tutorial. The tooltip should also hint about that.