From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:44:37 +0300 Message-ID: <01c53c28$Blat.v2.4$1bd305e0@zahav.net.il> References: <87fyy3hvxl.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112957870 11104 80.91.229.2 (8 Apr 2005 10:57:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 12:57:47 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJrAh-0000lH-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:57:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJqkA-0000ID-Hp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJqgk-0008Rf-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJqgY-0008Pf-Dm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJqgX-0008Gg-HU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:25:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJr3e-0003Bp-1g; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretski (IGLD-83-130-244-206.inter.net.il [83.130.244.206]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id AYA20001 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:48:50 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 22.0.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.4 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:22:05 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35752 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35752 > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:22:05 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Emacs Tutorial Learn how to use Emacs efficiently (TUTORIAL TITLE) > > It suggest users to select "Emacs Tutorial" to get the tutorial in their > native languages. > > What IS the menu item to get the tutorial in the locale-specified > language? Help->Emacs Tutorial _is_ such a menu item. Type "C-h k" followed by selecting that menu item, and you will see this in the *Help* buffer: runs the command help-with-tutorial which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `help-fns'. It is bound to C-h t, t, . (help-with-tutorial &optional ARG) Select the Emacs learn-by-doing tutorial. If there is a tutorial version written in the language of the selected language environment, that version is used. If there's no tutorial in that language, `TUTORIAL' is selected. With ARG, you are asked to choose which language. So I don't understand why Juri says that this is misleading. Juri, can you explain?