From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reverting non-file buffers in earlier Emacs versions. Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:40:50 +0200 Message-ID: <01c50298$Blat.v2.4$313ea200@zahav.net.il> References: <200501250126.j0P1Q4907054@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106628545 20106 80.91.229.6 (25 Jan 2005 04:49:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 05:48:58 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CtIdO-0008Q9-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:48:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CtIpd-0008TX-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CtIpI-0008T3-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:01:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CtIpE-0008Qx-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CtIpE-0008Qu-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:01:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CtIZ9-0005JO-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:44:35 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski (IGLD-83-130-211-151.inter.net.il [83.130.211.151]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJJ03657 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:44:17 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.4 In-reply-to: <200501250126.j0P1Q4907054@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:26:04 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32543 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32543 > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:26:04 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck > > I suggest the following documentation changes to autorevert.el and > emacs-xtra.texi. The reason for the changes is that in Emacs versions > 21.3 and earlier, autoreverting of non-file buffers seems to cause > serious problems. In Emacs-21.3, Dired buffers autorevert every five > seconds, print a message every five seconds, constantly overshouting > what I am trying to type in the echo area, and point in a Dired buffer > shoots back to the beginning of the buffer every five seconds. > > So I want to give the reader at least some indication that > autoreverting of non-file buffers worked quite differently in earlier > Emacs versions. > > I will install if there are no objections. Objection, your honor! ;-) Seriously: I don't think these changes should be installed. What they try to do is change history: you are adding information that should have been there in previous Emacs versions, because the problems you describe do not exist anymore in the current version. Since the updated files will be distributed with the new version of Emacs, what purpose will the additional text serve? How will it help users of Emacs 21.4 to know that in older versions Auto Revert worked worse than it does now? This information should be in etc/NEWS -- and AFAICS it is already there. So I don't think we should make these changes.