From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inforef Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:22:48 +0200 Message-ID: <01c4e2e3$Blat.v2.2.2$fdec6c80@zahav.net.il> References: <200412141721.iBEHLG327759@f7.net> <200412150515.iBF5F0s11052@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103142252 17709 80.91.229.6 (15 Dec 2004 20:24:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bug-texinfo@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: bug-texinfo-bounces+gnu-bug-texinfo2=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 21:24:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cefgp-00086n-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:24:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cefr2-0006vB-PA for gnu-bug-texinfo2@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cefqh-0006lD-U4 for bug-texinfo@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cefqh-0006kx-EL for bug-texinfo@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cefqg-0006kf-Ql; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cefg6-0003gh-Nc; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski (IGLD-83-130-213-50.inter.net.il [83.130.213.50]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.5-GR) with ESMTP id DIP82189 (AUTH halo1); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:22:56 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.2.2 In-reply-to: <200412150515.iBF5F0s11052@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:15:00 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: bug-texinfo@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Texinfo documentation system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-texinfo-bounces+gnu-bug-texinfo2=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-texinfo-bounces+gnu-bug-texinfo2=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs:2405 gmane.emacs.devel:31174 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31174 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:15:00 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck > Cc: fx@gnu.org, bug-texinfo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Except that a reference is useless if you give the user no indication > whatsoever on how to find that reference. The assumption is that a user who prints a manual likes his/her manuals in print, so he/she probably prints them all. Alternatively, he/she can grep for the manual's title (under @titlepage), if the Texinfo sources are available, or simply guess that the Info file `emacs-mime' might be the manual whose title is "Emacs MIME Manual". > The problem with hardcopy is that you can not click on a link to > produce the printed manual referred to. Well, we cannot help that, can we? Referring to an Info manual won't help, as a user who holds a printed manual might have no idea how to get hold of Info manuals, or can even be far away of any computer. Yes, the situation isn't perfect, but it's been like that for eons, and as far as I can remember, you are the first one to complain. > I have no problem whatsoever replacing the @inforef with an @xref. Yes, please do. That is how GNU documentation is written since about forever. I see no reason to change that now. _______________________________________________ Texinfo home page: http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ bug-texinfo@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-texinfo