From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, jmarant@free.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.]
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:22:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c4a7f4$Blat.v2.2.2$7a27bd20@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvu0tfphyh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:59 -0400)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:59 -0400
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > But if people think this change in the management of bugfix releases
> > is a good thing, aren't they going to do everything for it to succeed?
> > Let's clarify: we do propose to add more manpower for doing the
> > "dirty job" (honestly, noone loves tracking bugs), but it will never
> > work without a little cooperation from Emacs developers.
> > Can I have a guaranty that I'll never be pissed off or ignored on
> > blocking situations? ("go fuck yourself! You wanted to do the job,
> > you'll have to do this without us!")
>
> I don't expect any such problem. The worst I expect is that you might
> sometimes be prevented from installing a bugfix because it's not "good
> enough" (which is something that happens all the time anyway).
> Also sometimes things won't go as fast as you'd like.
>
> In order for you not to be frustrated, I think the best option is to take it
> slow: after all, the process already exists, and you're just offering to
> help out, so you can start by just systematically submitting the patches
> that you'd like to apply to Debian's tree (so they get installed in RC),
> then regularly bug people to remind them that we should get the next pretest
> started, ...
Full agreement.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-01 20:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-27 7:37 [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Richard Stallman
2004-09-27 9:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-27 11:48 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-27 13:24 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-28 9:01 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-28 20:57 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-27 13:21 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:47 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-28 12:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-29 17:46 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-29 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-29 19:29 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-29 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-29 20:22 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 0:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-09-30 1:25 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 15:40 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30 17:02 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 19:32 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30 1:56 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 7:42 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 9:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:32 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:36 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 15:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 16:33 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 17:37 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30 19:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-03 1:18 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30 20:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 20:46 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 21:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 21:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 21:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-30 22:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-01 16:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-03 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30 0:09 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:32 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:53 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 17:20 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 20:42 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-01 7:22 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 12:35 ` Stefan
2004-10-01 14:49 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 16:25 ` Stefan
2004-10-01 20:31 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-03 16:20 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-01 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2004-09-30 21:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 19:09 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-01 21:47 ` [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacsreleases.] Lennart Borgman
2004-09-30 16:53 ` [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Rob Browning
2004-09-30 19:15 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30 20:26 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-04 22:40 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-06 5:28 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-06 9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:15 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:58 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 17:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 21:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-10-02 20:47 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-09-30 15:59 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-01 6:24 ` Francesco Potorti`
2004-10-04 22:58 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 8:34 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-05 15:01 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 16:18 ` Juri Linkov
2004-10-05 16:34 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-06 8:39 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-05 11:26 ` Stefan
2004-10-05 11:40 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-06 11:09 ` Nick Roberts
2004-10-06 11:46 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-05 14:39 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-05 15:28 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 15:32 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-06 8:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-27 12:17 ` Kenichi Handa
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