From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ben Wing" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:59:50 -0600 Message-ID: <013b01c4df1c$b7f71c40$210110ac@NEEEEEEE> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102726901 5465 80.91.229.6 (11 Dec 2004 01:01:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Sat Dec 11 02:01:38 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135] ident=ident-user) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ccvdi-0002iF-00 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:01:38 +0100 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBB0voxq008749; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:51 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBB0vnjg008741 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBB0vnYr008740 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBB0vmOQ008729 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBB0vmXH008728 for xemacweb@tux.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id iBB0vltZ008723 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO NEEEEEEE) (benwing@sbcglobal.net@66.143.167.184 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2004 00:57:43 -0000 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/622/Wed Dec 8 08:36:53 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/622/Wed Dec 8 08:36:53 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/622/Wed Dec 8 08:36:53 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/622/Wed Dec 8 08:36:53 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17391 gmane.emacs.devel:30990 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30990 > The GNU Emacs user's manual has changed its license to > the GFDL. The XEmacs > manual has a different license -- the GPL. Because of > contributions from > various parties, we cannot easily change our license, > > Too bad. I won't relicense such a large amount of material > all together. Given that this manual used to be under the exact same license, and that there are minimal differences between the two, and that XEmacs is a free software project completely in the spirit of the "GNU Manifesto", what is the problem?