From: "grischka" <grishka@gmx.de>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:46:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <013001c7af43$0627f4e0$560690d4@j4f3n1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvvedqwejs.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
> The size and position of the thumb is a bug. But it's a bug which is only
> present with some toolkits because those toolkits make it particularly
> difficult for Emacs to do it right. So difficult that nobody has been able
> to do it yet.
Cool, like in 'Sleeping Beauty'. Who is going to kiss the lady?
> For Xaw3d I tried to do it in Emacs, with lots of work I got
> a very mixed result. Then I turned to the Xaw3d code and I fixed
> the whole thing by removing three lines (lines which are absent
> from Xaw, I should mention). Gtk/Motif and other toolkits enforce
> similar constraints for no technical reasons: just ideological ones.
Maybe your overestimating. It wasn't likely done to make your life
harder or anyone's.
> If these ideological
> reasons had to do with freedom and ethics, I could respect them,
> but GUI-dogma is not something for which I have any respect. Sorry.
>
> Stefan
Come on, it's not GUI-dogma. It's just that they want their
work of art to look exactly the same on everyone's computer.
--- grischka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-15 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-14 8:52 gtk scroll bar deficiency grischka
2007-06-14 9:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-14 11:56 ` grischka
2007-06-14 17:21 ` grischka
2007-06-14 18:22 ` David Reitter
2007-06-14 20:30 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-15 11:41 ` grischka
2007-06-15 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-18 13:32 ` grischka
2007-06-14 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 11:46 ` grischka [this message]
2007-06-15 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 15:56 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-15 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 18:58 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-14 9:24 ` Miles Bader
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-11 18:05 Sam Steingold
2007-06-11 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-11 19:54 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-11 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 5:52 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12 5:57 ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12 6:06 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12 6:12 ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12 7:40 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-15 20:51 ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12 11:09 ` David Reitter
2007-06-12 8:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-12 9:10 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12 13:04 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-12 13:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-12 13:19 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-12 15:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 22:38 ` Davis Herring
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