From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-rouge output with emacs -q --no-site-file Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <012e01c50d5b$ef2e2150$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <00cb01c50ad3$5f978570$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <010101c50aed$d57b4640$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107812620 11921 80.91.229.6 (7 Feb 2005 21:43:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 07 22:43:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CyGfO-0007K3-00 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:43:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyGtb-0000lE-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:58:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CyGpg-0007bE-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:54:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CyGpY-0007Xr-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:54:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyGpX-0007OD-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.10.115] (helo=av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CyGQz-0004dp-Lt; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: by av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id EB65337E6A; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:28:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.183]) by av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CD137E46; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:28:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t2o58p86.telia.com [62.20.165.86]) by smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E617D37E5E; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:28:39 +0100 (CET) Original-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33056 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33056 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Stallman" > At the moment I can not see any reason not to do this. Should not the values > just before loading `site-run-file' be the "standard values" for those > variables? > > The "standard value" is not just a value, it is an expression. So I > think the right way to handle this is to set up the right expression, > one that will compute the value that now gets installed. > > This would have to be done one variable at a time, but it is the > way that follows the design principles. Yes, in principle, but I did not think of it here. It is a little bit different situation. I would guess that the currently rogue symbols at a "clean" startup just depends on some basic things that are not changed at later points at execution. But it is just a guess.