From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: .emacs.d/tramp - written/touched each time you exit Emacs? Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:03:32 -0800 Message-ID: <010001c95276$b3d6d7f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1227999813 19166 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2008 23:03:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:03:33 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 00:04:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L6Yre-0005bb-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:04:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57623 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6YqT-0000Oi-Tx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6YqP-0000Od-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6YqN-0000OQ-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45945 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6YqN-0000ON-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:19 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet11.oracle.com ([148.87.113.123]:34065 helo=rgminet11.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L6YqL-0004rJ-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:19 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mATN443t009515 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:04:05 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt704.oracle.com (acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mATN3I6r013549 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:03:20 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.165.218) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:03:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclSdrN+lX0KW/cSQ0Cf6vAkNJhykg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4931CA31.0049:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106327 Archived-At: Dunno if this helps or is important, but I just fired up Emacs 23 (with my libraries, not emacs -Q), opened Info and a couple files, and then exited Emacs. While Emacs was exiting, I noticed a very brief message about Tramp - too quick for me to read (which is not good, BTW). I did not access any remote files or even try to during the brief session. As far as I know, I made no use of Tramp whatsoever. AFAIK, my own code does not load or use Tramp behind the scene. Curious, I looked around for a file related to Tramp and discovered .emacs.d/tramp, which had just been updated. But the file content is nothing new. I haven't used Tramp in a long time (I've always had problems getting it to work on Windows), and there doesn't seem to be anything new in this file. The only thing that might be new (I'm unfamiliar with the old content) is the last line: ("started" t))) I tried another session of Emacs and saw the same thing - the file `tramp' was touched when I exited Emacs, but the content looks identical. Are we perhaps writing or touching this file systematically each time Emacs exits? If so, is that necessary? In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-11-24 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping'