From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ben Wing" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: How things have changed [RE: Old versions of GNU Emacs] Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:37:05 -0600 Message-ID: <00fc01c4cd1f$e06d8290$210110ac@NEEEEEEE> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100748931 29928 80.91.229.6 (18 Nov 2004 03:35:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 03:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Stefan' , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 04:35:24 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUd4t-000780-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:35:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUdDj-0006HH-7V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUdDb-0006Gs-DJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:44:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUdDa-0006GE-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUdDa-0006GB-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.163.170.84] (helo=smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUd4e-00072Y-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO NEEEEEEE) (benwing@sbcglobal.net@67.67.219.85 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2004 03:35:07 -0000 Original-To: "'Miles Bader'" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30007 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17024 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30007 Noah just dug up v16.56 for me. ftp://ftp.splode.com/pub/users/friedman/emacs/ /e/download/installers/emacs 2399% ll emacs-16.56.tar.gz -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 1085612 Mar 16 1993 = emacs-16.56.tar.gz* /e/download/installers/emacs 2400% ll emacs-21.3.tar.gz -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 20399831 Oct 30 05:58 = emacs-21.3.tar.gz* epoch-4.2.tar.gz 27-Aug-1992 00:00 2.9M lemacs-19.0.00.tar.gz 20-Apr-1992 20:11 5.6M=20 Compare to: xemacs-21.5.0.tar.gz 18-Apr-2001 03:41 9.9M=20 And, uh ... xemacs-21.5.18.tar.gz 22-Oct-2004 06:39 14.3M=20 xemacs-sumo-2004-08-18.tar.gz 18-Aug-2004 05:08 28.9M xemacs-mule-sumo-2004-08-18.tar.gz 18-Aug-2004 04:12 5.6M ------------------------------------------------------------ 48.8M Here is what c:\xemacs\symlink\man\internals\internals.texi says: @item GNU Emacs version 16 (first released version was 16.56) was released on July 15, 1985. All Gosling code was removed due to potential copyright problems with the code. Anyone wanna get this version up and running? BTW In the same directory Noah has patches to get 18.59 working on = Linux, so you've already got much of the work done.