From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: suggestions on toolbar icons Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <00b101c52b10$155f37c0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111078980 7204 80.91.229.2 (17 Mar 2005 17:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 17 18:02:59 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DByEh-0004Nl-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:52:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DByV0-0005eq-2Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:09:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DByMb-0002ki-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DByMM-0002Xs-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DByMI-0002RS-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.10.109] (helo=av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DBy38-0006M6-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:40:42 -0500 Original-Received: by av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 66FA237E4E; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:40:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.182]) by av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591D437E48; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:40:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t3o58p139.telia.com [195.252.56.139]) by smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5044637E4C; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:40:40 +0100 (CET) Original-To: "Drew Adams" , "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34671 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34671 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Adams" I do not use the toolbar very often, but I think it is good to have it as easy to understand as possible. I agree with much of your suggestions, but there are some things I would like a bit different: > - Magnifying glass for search: This symbol is often used for > Zoom, and it should be reserved for Zoom. > > Suggestion: Use binoculars instead. (People don't search with > magnifying glasses, anyway.) I believe magnifying glass is common for search. Firefox uses it for example. And it is perhaps also a bit easier to make a small picture of a magnigying glass than of binoculars. > - Arrows Previous, Next, Up, History Back, and History Forward: > The structural-move icons (Previous, Next, Up) look too much > like the chronological-move icons of Web browsers. I don't > have a slam-dunk suggestion here, but we should come up with > something better: browser users are used to these fat arrows > for chronological moves. (It's best to avoid them altogether.) Why not use the fat arrows for chronological moves? Why do we need the arrows for Prev, Next and Up? There are already text links for this in the Info buffer. If you are using a single window they are right under the toolbar. > - Help: To me the help toolbar seems to contain many items that have no connection with help.