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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Miles Bader'" <miles@gnu.org>,
	"'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 'Juri Linkov' <juri@jurta.org>,
	'Michael Albinus' <michael.albinus@gmx.de>,
	'TSUCHIYA Masatoshi' <tsuchiya@namazu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand'
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:46:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <009601c87fb2$01cce2d0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lk4vpxnk.fsf@catnip.gol.com>

> > I think that when the minibuffer is active, we should still output
> > a message, only differently (as does minibuffer-message).  
> > Maybe just using minibuffer-message (and changing it so it uses
> > plain "message" when the minibuffer is not active) would do the trick.
> 
> I wish _all_ messages would display ala minibuffer-message when the
> user's editing in the minibuffer -- the current behavior (temporarily
> ovewriting the minibuffer to show messages) is stupid and annoying,
> especially given that many errors one gets are fairly trivial or
> transient.
> 
> I made a patch to do this sometime before Emacs 21 was released, and
> recall various issues popping up though... I think mainly it was the
> somewhat more exotic users of message, like quail completion info etc.

I find that it depends, though I can't give you a good fer-instance right
now. I'm not sure that a blanket change would be appropriate.

One disadvantage to `minibuffer-message' in some contexts is its
`minibuffer-message-timeout' delay. That can be inappropriate or annoying in
some contexts. And the message appears for only a limited time, even if
there is no input event. That's usually TRT, but not always, in my
experience.

Possibly a single DTRT messaging interface can be devised, but I suspect
that some code will continue to need to explicitly DTRT on a case-by-case
basis.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-06 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-04 16:42 Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand' paul r
2008-03-04 21:54 ` Michael Albinus
2008-03-04 23:17   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-05  1:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06  8:40   ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-06 10:04     ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 16:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 16:14         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 17:31         ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 17:46           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-03-06 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-07  2:14             ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 23:48           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 17:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 23:45           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 23:47         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-08 17:39         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 22:21           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-08 22:38             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-08 22:57               ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09  0:21                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-08 23:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 16:39             ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 17:45               ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  6:12                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 14:44                   ` Cannot build the trunk since unicode (was: Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand') Stefan Monnier
2008-03-11  9:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11  9:40                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-10 22:35                   ` Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand' Juri Linkov
2008-03-11 20:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12  0:31                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-12 23:13                         ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-12 23:19                           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-12 23:36                             ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-13  2:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-13  9:28                             ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-13 14:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 19:02                                 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14  2:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-14  7:46                                     ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 15:07                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15  3:23                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-15  3:24                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-14  3:21                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14  7:47                                     ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 15:05                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:33                                         ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 19:20                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 22:31                                             ` martin rudalics
2008-03-15  0:59                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 14:24                                             ` martin rudalics
2008-03-16 18:28                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17  7:36                                                 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-17 15:00                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14  1:04                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 14:01       ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-09 17:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  0:08           ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-10  0:57             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-10  1:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  2:20               ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-10  2:37                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-10 22:31                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-12  1:31               ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-12  2:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 10:42                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-15  8:29                   ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-15 10:24                     ` paul r
2008-03-15 21:35                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-20 19:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:55                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-21 17:17                         ` Stefan Monnier

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