From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:37:33 -0800 Message-ID: <009301c87fa8$61877640$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu><200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204821548 23836 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 16:39:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:39:08 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 17:39:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXJ74-0006Mp-Vx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:38:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXJ6X-0006hT-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:38:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXJ6J-0006S4-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:37:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXJ6H-0006Q7-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:37:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXJ6G-0006PX-Um for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:37:45 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXJ6G-0001Ll-Hz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:37:44 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m26GbfXo002758; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:37:42 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m26GbeJW020890; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:37:40 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3602342961204821449; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:37:29 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.72.2) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:37:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Ach/pZg05vQqJxxWR8K16VBfybwCMQAARw9A X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91506 Archived-At: > >> Never liked it. Is it really that popular? > > That's hard to measure, isn't it? In _my_ experience it is. > > Never heard anyone complain about blink-matching-open. I > myself find it great: it's very lightweight yet effective. > I find show-paren-mode too much in-your-face. I like both show-paren-mode and blink-matching-open. Show-paren-mode shows the matching paren all the time; blink-matching-open shows it only when you add a closing paren. But I use a subtle face for show-paren-mode, so it's not at all in-my-face. When a face background is only slightly highlighted wrt the frame, it's noticeable only if you look for it, which you do only when you want it. Find a face that is noticeable, but not too noticeable, wrt your default background etc. YMMV. FWIW, I see no need to change any defaults in this regard. Someone who programs in Lisp (where paren matching is important) will have no trouble finding and customizing these things.