From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:18:16 -0700 Message-ID: <008c01c89b26$7bf38ac0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: <200803201508.m2KF8C0S002150@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <006301c88aa9$ffafda40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <200803201704.m2KH4HVt023198@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <47E37419.6080708@swipnet.se> <18404.11482.3867.697294@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <47E430B0.4080408@gmail.com> <18404.12883.894990.383516@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87iqzfczrr.fsf@jurta.org><47FC8E8F.1020002@swipnet.se><18429.45504.593032.149745@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <47FDC15B.4060604@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207844443 12746 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2008 16:20:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juri Linkov' , "'Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)'" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Jan_Dj=E4rv'?=" , "'Nick Roberts'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 10 18:21:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjzW4-00022s-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjzVQ-0002BG-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjzVJ-00026O-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjzVH-00022X-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjzVH-00021v-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjzVH-0004HD-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m3AGJtWb017584; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:19:55 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m3AAD7fx011590; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:19:54 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3645718601207844295; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:18:15 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:18:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <47FDC15B.4060604@swipnet.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acia3IcXDkN8FC/qRzKvQMQsrYRWWgAQvNtQ X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94881 Archived-At: > Basically it takes the multiline tool tip and join lines to a > single line until no more lines can be added without exceeding > the frame width. > > The idea is that if you are sofisticated enough to disable > tool tips, you either know what they say or don't care that > much. Don't be silly. Disabling tooltip-mode implies nothing about not wanting to see the tooltip help. If the idea was that people disabling the popup window don't want to see the help at all, then the behavior would not be to show the help in the minibuffer. > But the main thing is to avoid minibuffer expansion and shrinkage. Why is that the main thing? Why is that even a goal?