From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding refactoring capabilities to Emacs
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:34:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0076a5f8-7a60-a045-6b7e-338e1da36866@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm511f0yxXoVzHcgoasY=6QEbqTd3yguzucObaJmoB1L3hQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 26/09/2023 14:24, João Távora wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:57 AM Dmitry Gutov<dmitry@gutov.dev> wrote:
>> On 26/09/2023 11:06, João Távora wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:36 AM Alfred M. Szmidt<ams@gnu.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have a diff on file, you are most probobly going to apply it,
>>>> and also probobly going to remove a hunk or two or edit the diff in
>>>> some manner. (That this is "relatively rare" I disagree from my own
>>>> usage and experience). Not to mention that visiting a file on disk,
>>>> that is read-write, and Emacs making it read-only would be very
>>>> strange.
>>> I completely agree with these two points. Even non-file diff-mode
>>> buffers, such as the ones provided by piping git diff into Emacs
>>> (yes, I can do that 😄 ) are generally better left read-write,
>>> since I frequently edit them to kill hunks I'm not interested in.
>> 'k' (or M-k), 'C-c C-s' and 'C-_' all work fine in a read-only diff-mode
>> buffer. 'C-x C-s' also works, of course.
> I think it's very inconsistent to have specialized commands to modify
> a buffers contents and not allow all the other regular commands that
> modify a buffer do their work. I don't have unlimited brain address
> space for keybindings and I think C-SPC C-n a few times C-w does
> the job just fine.
Is that better than typing 'k'?
Or being able to use hunk navigation with n/p?
> Opening regular files of a special type read-only mode would be a
> spectacular failure in the basic ergonomics of an editor.
Like you said: you edit both kinds of diff buffers (vc and files on
disk) in the same way. But we assign them different read-only status.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-26 11:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-19 6:03 Adding refactoring capabilities to Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:58 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-19 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-20 1:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-20 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-20 6:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-20 8:44 ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-20 22:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-29 10:53 ` João Távora
2023-08-29 11:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-30 0:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-30 18:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 19:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-30 20:37 ` João Távora
2023-08-30 21:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-30 22:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 22:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-04 6:03 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2023-09-04 11:04 ` João Távora
2023-09-04 12:18 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2023-08-31 5:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-31 8:02 ` João Távora
2023-09-04 15:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-04 23:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-04 17:23 ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-04 17:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-05 6:38 ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-05 7:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-04 18:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-05 6:43 ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-04 20:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-04 17:15 ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-04 18:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-05 13:56 ` Alexander Adolf
2023-09-05 14:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-06 13:25 ` Alexander Adolf
2023-08-20 13:00 ` sbaugh
2023-09-07 14:39 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 16:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-07 16:49 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-07 17:24 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-07 18:12 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 21:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-07 23:46 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-09-07 20:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-07 22:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-07 22:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-07 22:18 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 22:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 18:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 18:35 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 18:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 18:44 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 19:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 19:01 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 6:55 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-08 16:05 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 16:20 ` João Távora
2023-09-25 23:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-25 23:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 5:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 8:06 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 10:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 11:24 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 11:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 11:34 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-09-26 12:57 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 13:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 13:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 13:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-26 14:06 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 14:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 14:51 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 14:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 15:17 ` João Távora
2023-09-26 15:35 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 15:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 15:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 16:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 16:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 12:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-26 16:31 ` Yuri Khan
2023-09-26 17:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-29 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 10:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 12:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 15:01 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-09-26 15:22 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 12:30 ` Robert Pluim
2023-09-29 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-29 13:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 13:16 ` João Távora
2023-09-29 13:19 ` João Távora
2023-09-29 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-10-01 12:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-01 18:43 ` Howard Melman
2023-09-29 15:47 ` Drew Adams
2023-09-29 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-26 15:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 12:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 15:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 16:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 17:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-09-26 10:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 12:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-26 12:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 12:20 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-29 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 10:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-29 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 17:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-29 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 17:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 18:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <CALDnm52Wtat24JFu=o6m_eJVamub+1H1BxNd5eELQ2j--7OetA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <da4cb294-39eb-c4a1-a625-da5ee183170c@gutov.dev>
2023-09-08 18:57 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 19:06 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-09-07 19:19 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 19:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 19:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 22:14 ` João Távora
2023-09-07 20:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-07 22:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 11:10 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 22:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 23:17 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 12:46 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-09-08 12:52 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 13:18 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-10-01 15:07 ` Extract to new definition (was: Adding refactoring capabilities to Emacs) Eshel Yaron
2023-09-08 13:30 ` [semi off topic] grep-based refactoring [was: Adding refactoring capabilities to Emacs] tomas
2023-09-08 17:53 ` João Távora
2023-09-08 18:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-08 18:51 ` tomas
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