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From: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:41:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <007501c48bb5$78a3d200$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwv6575wrp9.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>


> >> As Stefan has pointed out to me this will only affect the user that is
> >> installing Emacs.  However I think that is no big problem on ms
windows.
>
> I think that's only acceptable if there's no good way to do The Right
Thing.

I really think TRT is undoable here. I will instead leave Emacs untweaked
for other users.

> > (customize-set-value 'custom-var "custom value")
> > ...
> > (customize-save-customized)
>
> Yes, that's better.

It looks better, but it however has one big fault - it does not save the
changes.

>  But the problem is still here: this will only affect
> the current user, and (worse) this will modify his .emacs, potentially
> throwing away some of his own customizations.

It seems acceptable to modify .emacs if I ask first.

> My take on it is to create a site-start.el (or default.el) file which does
> something along the lines of:
>
> (unless (file-exists-p "~/.emacs")
>   (customize-set-value 'custom-var1 "custom value1")
>   (customize-set-value 'custom-var2 "custom value2")
>   (customize-set-value 'custom-var3 "custom value3"))

There have been many good points on this and this is one. The essential
thing as I understand it is to honor the users setting. My first idea has
been to create a minor mode for the w32 tweaks. Maybe I still can do this,
but the discussion shows I have to be very careful then.

- Lennart

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-26 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-02 22:17 Emacs Installer for MS Windows Lennart Borgman
2004-08-03  4:41 ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-04 20:37   ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-04 20:55     ` David Kastrup
2004-08-05  6:51       ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-05  6:55         ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-05  7:26         ` David Kastrup
2004-08-05  8:18         ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-05 14:27           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-06  4:17             ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-06 13:43             ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-06 13:56               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-06 17:07                 ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-27 21:26                   ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-06 15:39               ` Frank Schmitt
2004-08-07 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-23 19:21             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-23 19:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-24 18:13                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-24 18:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-24 19:31                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-24 19:58                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-25  0:06                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25  2:51                           ` Stefan
2004-08-26 18:27                             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 18:35                               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-26 21:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-26 21:41                                   ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2004-08-25  4:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  7:09                             ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-25 16:01                               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25 18:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-26 15:17                             ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 16:09                               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 16:21                                 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 18:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-26 16:29                               ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-26 16:58                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 17:40                                   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 18:38                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-27  6:52                                       ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-26 18:42                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 19:41                                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-26 22:17                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27  9:22                                         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-27 13:20                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-27 13:38                                             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-27 15:08                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 15:24                                           ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-27 15:42                                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-28  1:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27 15:16                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 15:47                                           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-28  1:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27 15:44                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 16:14                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 15:51                         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 16:52                           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 19:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-26 19:49                             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-23 19:59               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-24  5:37               ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-24 16:33                 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-24 21:02               ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-24 21:09                 ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  4:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25 16:21                   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25 18:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  4:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-05 11:18         ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-08-05 15:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-04 21:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-04 22:12       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-05  2:05       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-08-05  2:40         ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-04 21:42 Robert Anderson
2004-08-24  7:04 Berndl, Klaus
2004-08-24 17:35 ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-24 18:08   ` David Kastrup
2004-08-24 21:20     ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-24 21:35       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-25  1:02         ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-25  2:38           ` Stefan
2004-08-25  4:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  7:48           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-24 21:55       ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  0:14         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25  0:24           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  4:41     ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25  7:56       ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25 22:40         ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25 23:03           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-26  7:04             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-08-26  7:56               ` David Kastrup

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