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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Jason Spiro'" <jasonspiro4@gmail.com>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:44:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005b01c93ec6$95168ea0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081104T212952-374@post.gmane.org>

> The reason the tour is called a "tour" is because it is
> more of a whirlwind tour of Emacs' modes than a tutorial
> on how to use each mode.

Yes, they have different purposes:

1. Tour: giving you an idea of what you can do with Emacs.

2. Tutorial: helping you get started learning how to use Emacs.

#1 is about learning what; #2 is about learning how.

> I am not 100% sure but I suspect the tour covers everything 
> the tutorial covers, plus more.

The tutorial is not meant for "coverage". It's meant to lead you by the hand, to
get you started: learning some basics by doing them.

> I think the tutorial should be removed from 
> Emacs, and replaced with the tour.

This flies in the face of your first statement that they have different
purposes. One cannot replace the other without changing the aim.

The tutorial should not be replaced by the tour. But it should be improved. That
can of worms was explored before, so we can leave it closed for now.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-27 19:37 minor suggestions for splash screen Drew Adams
2007-01-30 10:38 ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Jason Spiro
2007-01-30 11:06   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial David Kastrup
2007-01-30 11:23     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-01-31 13:28       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-30 11:32     ` Jason Spiro
2007-01-31  4:00       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-31  8:18         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-30 20:26   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-30 20:49     ` Jason Spiro
2008-06-30 15:56     ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-07-06 21:57       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 22:21         ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:30           ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:33             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  7:02           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 21:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04  2:47         ` Please add a Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 18:15           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04 19:05             ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 19:42             ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 20:09               ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 20:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:03                       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:09                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 23:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-05  4:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 20:46                 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:37                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:34                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:44                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-11-04 22:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:25                 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 21:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:44                     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:30                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:10                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 23:56                       ` Davis Herring
2008-11-05  0:11                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-05  0:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 18:23           ` Please add a Drew Adams

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