From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:25:17 -0800 Message-ID: <005801c93ec3$d5ab54d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225833902 19566 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2008 21:25:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Juri Linkov'" , "'Jason Spiro'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 04 22:26:04 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxTPV-0006Ry-I2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:26:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40181 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxTOO-0003dB-B4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxTOJ-0003cj-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxTOH-0003cV-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46409 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxTOG-0003cL-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:17596) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxTOH-0003HB-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:45 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id mA4LOePF019621; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:24:40 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt703.oracle.com (acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id mA4LOdXA001868; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:24:40 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.83.246) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:24:39 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ack+uU5IBYm5tBkIQuKwy7/8lsOwFgABxBpg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105363 Archived-At: > > So name the menu item this: "Emacs Guided Tour (web page)". > > Yes, it is important to add such a notice, otherwise running a browser > would a bad surprise for users. Yes. Typical such items are `Help Online', `Help on the Web', and `Web Tour'. > Another question is where to put such a menu item. Help menus are > already overcrowded. So maybe to add it to some Help submenu. It's about the same level as these - perhaps they could be grouped in a submenu, say `Overview': Overview Emacs Tutorial Emacs Tutorial (choose language) Emacs FAQ Emacs News Emacs Known Problems BTW, `Emacs' is not needed in any of those, and `What's New' would be better than `News', which could be confused with Usenet. Also, why have both `Tutorial' and `Tutorial (choose language)'? Just `Tutorial' is enough, but it should ask for the language (and optionally save that choice, just as it saves the tutorial position). IOW: Overview Web Tour Tutorial FAQ What's New Known Problems