From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: followup to bug report not included in bug tracker; diverseautomatic Subject lines; ACK noise Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:19 -0700 Message-ID: <005501c8d3f2$4c8e4e00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <001901c8d112$df848680$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><20080618192134.GA20708@rzlab.ucr.edu><004301c8d3bd$e86238d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><87hcbmlly8.fsf@catnip.gol.com><004801c8d3d5$35d97e40$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87abhemncm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214089212 21506 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 23:00:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Don Armstrong' , 'Miles Bader' To: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 01:00:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KAC4U-00073H-Hw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:00:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50919 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAC3f-0001rx-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAC2d-0001NG-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAC2c-0001Ld-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48319 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAC2b-0001LF-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:14145) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KAC2X-0007Gr-3z; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m5LMwKJG027275; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:58:21 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m5LMNxEY014939; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:58:20 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3696735431214089093; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:13 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.171.3) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87abhemncm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Thread-Index: AcjT7MKPEOlLq8wXQm+akguW5TAjiwAAWSgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99647 Archived-At: > > If it's truly impossible to use a different header field > > or the message body, then append; don't prepend. Prepending > > junk throws off sorting by subject. > > Sure, but all that's required to fix that is to update the junk-prefix > strippers provided by the major MUAs. We already have to strip Re:, > Re[\d], Fwd:, AWT:, [listname: postnumber], etc etc. I see; it's the user's problem. Each user should customize the mail client. Guess I don't know how to do that in my mail client, Outlook, which is still AFAIK one of the most commonly used clients. (Not necessarily among Emacs developers, but in general.) Maybe it's possible, but I'm not crazy about having to learn how. And I certainly wouldn't want to try to deal with the entire (evolving?) panoply of prepended annotations I've seen so far. This seems to be only the beginning: bug#431: closed by Stefan Monnier (Re:bug#431: 23.0.60; ... Will we be representing whole workflows or bug metadiscussions in the subject line?