From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: choice for the new emacs icon Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:55:34 -0800 Message-ID: <005101c87196$ada4a220$2d58908d@us.oracle.com> References: <200802050135.m151ZGDH005052@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu><87hcg9juvs.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <85mypzzksd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <874pc762kl.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203274624 9822 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2008 18:57:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Bill Wohler' , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Bastien Guerry'" , "'David Kastrup'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 17 19:57:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQohb-0002gp-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQoh6-0000Iy-UR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:56:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQoh2-0000Id-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:56:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQoh0-0000IJ-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:56:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQoh0-0000IG-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:56:50 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQogt-0000hB-CQ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:56:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m1HIuCvM028182; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:56:12 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m1HI5e9X028165; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:56:11 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3578729881203274521; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:55:21 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.88.45) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:55:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <874pc762kl.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Achxktma83dawGjARe2dH89J96zTCAAAc+dg X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89381 Archived-At: > Isn't this supposed to reflect humour and history more than end user > polish? BTW, I don't expect the users will deduce the actual design > and usefulness of GNU Emacs based on its icon. Humor and history. Amen. And maybe a bit of inoffensive irreverence. An impudent wink, not a grimace. Emacs is free. It has no customer base to avoid offending. It can go beyond the least common denominator. It can be out of the box, over the top, and off the wall if it wants. Free as in free. It really doesn't matter what icon Emacs uses. It can use an icon that transmutes or transfigures itself each day or after each access. Emacs can take on any form. Emacs is a chameleon's chameleon, an octopus's garden of delights.