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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <rms@gnu.org>, "'Bill Wohler'" <wohler@newt.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: choice for the new emacs icon
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:38:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005001c87194$57c313c0$2d58908d@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JQjTg-0002tJ-JA@fencepost.gnu.org>

RMS> Maybe we should go back to the kitchen sink icon.
RMS> It was the funniest of all the Emacs icons.

Sure. It could be given a new look (?) (but not a newer sink). Go forward,
not back, but keep the spirit.

Why not be frivolous or impudent instead of designerish? It really doesn't
matter much what icon we use. But the less professional, serious, and
business-like the better, IMO. Let's lighten up, and not try to look classy
(for the icon).

If it somehow made a humorous statement about software freedom, without
being verbal (it's an icon) or preachy, then that would be a plus. Put
something on desktops all over the world that steps out of or upsets the
global corporate mindset a bit. Not offensive, but offbeat, or at least back
beat. That's Emacs - a different drum.

The mushroom had a lot going for it, too. Stood for unbounded imagination
(if not outright hallucination), in my book.

No flames, please - I'm OK with the 22.1 icon, the proposed round-button
icon, the retro sink icon, a new mushroom, abstract art, or anything else.
If we could get away with (ab)using the golden arches or some other
corporate logo in an Emacsy way, I'd probably vote for that.

Whatever it is, keep it simple.

DK> I don't think [the kitchen sink] properly reflects
DK> the end user polish we have taken pains to apply to
DK> Emacs in the last decade or so.

Right. It's just an icon. It doesn't need to have end-user polish. Emacs
needs to have good end-user behavior, but it doesn't need to have an icon
that "properly reflects" that. Emacs is free. And it's quite improper, if
you ask those who are proper.






      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-17 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-05  1:35 choice for the new emacs icon Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  1:46 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-05  1:54   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-05  2:01     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  1:54   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  4:15     ` Drew Adams
2008-02-05  3:32   ` Thomas Lord
2008-02-05  1:47 ` Mike Mattie
2008-02-05  4:28   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  7:13   ` Jan Djärv
2008-02-05  2:04 ` Chong Yidong
2008-02-05  2:42   ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-05  6:18   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  6:27     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  6:42       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  7:01         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  8:10           ` Tassilo Horn
2008-02-05  8:32             ` Mike Mattie
2008-02-05  8:46               ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07  1:34               ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-05 11:35             ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-02-05 10:53     ` Leo
2008-02-05 11:36       ` David Kastrup
2008-02-05 18:25         ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-05 22:29           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-06  5:47   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-06  7:29     ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07  3:58       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-07  4:13         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-07 15:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08  1:30             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-08  2:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-06  8:47     ` Leo
2008-02-06  9:35       ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07  1:44     ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-07  4:11       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-07  8:22         ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07  8:56           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-07  9:32             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07  9:36               ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07  9:46                 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-05  4:27 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  8:33   ` David Kastrup
2008-02-05  5:09 ` Thomas Lord
2008-02-05  7:12 ` Jan Djärv
2008-02-05  7:21   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  8:12     ` Jan Djärv
2008-02-05  8:22       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-05  9:07 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-05  9:15   ` David Kastrup
2008-02-05 18:25     ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-05 21:33       ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-06 17:54 ` Taylor Venable
2008-02-16  6:08 ` Bill Wohler
2008-02-17 13:22   ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-17 15:04     ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 15:10       ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-17 18:55         ` Drew Adams
2008-02-17 22:31         ` Leo
2008-02-17 22:49           ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 15:19       ` Ralf Angeli
2008-02-17 15:41         ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 15:50           ` Ralf Angeli
2008-02-17 17:17             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-02-18 11:40             ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-18 13:51               ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-02-18 14:03                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18 14:10                 ` Bastien
2008-02-18 15:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-18 15:58                     ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-18 16:29                       ` David Hansen
2008-02-18 18:38               ` Ralf Angeli
2008-02-18 20:41                 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 16:05           ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-17 16:16             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 19:02           ` Johan Bockgård
2008-02-17 19:17             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17 18:38     ` Drew Adams [this message]

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