From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Please add a Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:05:24 -0800 Message-ID: <004001c93eb0$4c21a790$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225825548 20106 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2008 19:05:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" , "'Jason Spiro'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 04 20:06:50 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxRE7-000449-Kn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:06:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58584 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRD0-0000PE-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:04:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRCx-0000Oj-2S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:04:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRCv-0000OA-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49655 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRCv-0000O7-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:04:53 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:29893) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxRCv-0005vP-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:04:53 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id mA4J4nrG021419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:04:49 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt705.oracle.com (acsmt705.oracle.com [141.146.40.83]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id mA4J4mSu014481; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:04:49 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.83.246) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:04:48 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Thread-Index: Ack+rJh2GOXkUOSPTXiqbplpiap64wAAkCEA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105354 Archived-At: > > Juri, I think it would be better to also have a link on the > > Help menu. That's because I bet some users look only on the > > Help menu, and not also on the splash screen, for help. > > > > All: what do you think? > > It's a little counter-intuitive for menu items to open hyperlinks, at > least in my experience. Not in my experience. (s/counter-intuitive/natural) Nowadays it is not uncommon to have menu items that open Web pages or that update an application via the Internet. Web access is especially common for Help menu items, where the Web page often provides some more up-to-date help than what is available in the app distribution. This is very common for publishing doc and help updates. Having a menu item open a (local or Web) hyperlink is also not very different from having a menu item `Send Bug Report' that lets you compose and send mail. At one time, someone might have said that that seemed unnatural for a menu item.