From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Release update Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:40:58 -0800 Message-ID: <003101c964a7$e39f6540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87abaocmay.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <001901c96489$97132040$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><002201c96493$e7a9ba00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <003001c964a4$7f741d20$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230000070 18132 80.91.229.12 (23 Dec 2008 02:41:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Eli Zaretskii' , 'Leo' To: "'Lennart Borgman'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 03:42:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LExDo-0002v1-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:42:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45281 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LExCb-0002Co-Lm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:40:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LExCX-0002Cj-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:40:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LExCW-0002CX-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:40:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34313 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LExCW-0002CU-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:40:52 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:44817) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LExCU-0005tk-OF; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:40:51 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBN2eJCv018272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:40:20 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt703.oracle.com (acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBN2fBGa025651; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:41:12 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.135.148) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:40:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <003001c964a4$7f741d20$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: AclkmRfeSkbJrHhcT3G3yLbGkIM8kAACc/9AAAB6otA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A09020A.49504FAB.0026:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107218 Archived-At: > > > That's exactly the behavior I see in Lennart's vanilla > > > builds. It either takes quite a long time or it comes up > > > immediately. I was thinking that it usually > > > takes a long time, but trying now several times in a row, > > > it looks like it's about 50-50. Same thing for Lennart's build. > > > > FYI I do not see anything like this. The first time it > takes a little > > bit longer, but then it is very quick. My pc is probably slower. > > > > Something with disk access, caching? Page file size? (Could that > > really matter in this situation??) My page file is 1.5GB and 3GB max > > (approx). But, hm, the time delay must be too long for such things. > > Some network problem? > > I'm working locally - no network (but Internet connection). > Page file is 2G (max 4G); single hard disk. RAM is 2G. And no visible change in PF usage or CPU usage when I start Emacs 23. No noticeable change in CPU usage as Emacs starts up - stays ~0% to 5%. PF usage remains ~922 MB throughout startup. No difference noticeable in Task Mgr whether Emacs 23 happens to start in 1 sec or 15 sec. The elapsed time (e.g. 15 sec) occurs before the frame starts to appear. The frame is displayed, and startup finishes, at the normal speed. It seems almost as if Emacs waits before it decides to start up. I suppose it could be something particular to my machine, but I don't see such a wait/delay for any other apps or other Emacs versions (20, 21, 22.x).