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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Juri Linkov'" <juri@jurta.org>,
	"'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 'paul r' <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>, 'emacs- devel' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Usability suggestion : completion for M-:
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:35:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003001c886f5$366f4330$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hcf7r7vl.fsf@jurta.org>

> >> I think TAB should be bound to lisp-complete-symbol
> >> in M-x eval-expression, aka M-: .
>
> I think the only problem preventing this change is...
> When this is fixed, it makes sense to allow TAB to
> complete a lisp symbol...

Uh, why? What's wrong with M-TAB or ESC TAB for Lisp symbol completion,
exactly as in a Lisp buffer? If it's good enough for there, and it's always
been good enough for here (minibuffer) in the past, why change it? 

You complete a lot more symbols in a Lisp buffer than in the minibuffer with
M-:, and ESC TAB hasn't been a problem in a Lisp buffer, so far.

As I mentioned, I would rather see M-: take on _more_ of the character of
Emacs-Lisp mode, not less. If you want to spend energy improving M-:, then
let it act like a pop-up emacs-lisp-mode buffer, but with RET causing eval.
And let the value be pretty-printed. When that is realized, you will see the
utility of TAB to indent, just as in Emacs-Lisp mode.

There are several ways in which M-: might be improved, but I don't see
dedicating TAB to lisp-symbol completion to be one of them. That's a YAGNI,
IMO.

Just one opinion - I'm not crazy about this change, but I don't feel
strongly about it. It doesn't matter to me for my own use, because I use
Icicles anyway, but I think it's better for Emacs users to always think of
ESC TAB as the symbol-completion key. I don't see anything gained by this
change.

If you are looking for something for TAB to complete against in M-:, let it
be the items in `read-expression-history'. That, at least, is consistent
with other minibuffer completion: the entire minibuffer input is what is
completed, and then entered. Symbol completion is a different animal.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-15 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-13 17:30 Usability suggestion : completion for M-: paul r
2008-03-13 18:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-13 21:32   ` paul r
2008-03-13 21:45     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 23:32 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-13 23:49   ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21  5:21     ` Drew Adams
2008-03-14  8:52   ` paul r
2008-03-15 21:36   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-15 23:35     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-03-15 23:43       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16  8:12         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 11:00           ` paul r
2008-03-16 11:21             ` Ralf Angeli
2008-03-16 16:52             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 12:27           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 16:50             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16  0:17       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-16  8:11         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 10:48           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 12:22             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 13:36               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 10:56           ` paul r
2008-03-16 16:49             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 18:42               ` paul r
2008-03-16 19:56                 ` Bastien
2008-03-16 20:22                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-03-17  2:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17  4:07                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-17 13:32                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17  9:32                     ` paul r
2008-03-17 19:16                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18  9:19                       ` paul r
2008-03-19  2:53                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-19 16:28                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-19 18:16                             ` paul r
2008-03-19 19:25                               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 18:49               ` paul r
2008-03-16 12:31           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 16:50             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 20:06         ` Bastien Guerry
2008-03-22 21:14     ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-23  2:30       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-23  5:54         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-09 20:42 ` Paul R
2008-04-09 21:20   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 23:12     ` Juri Linkov

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