From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Juri Linkov'" <juri@jurta.org>,
"'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 'paul r' <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>, 'emacs- devel' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Usability suggestion : completion for M-:
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:35:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <003001c886f5$366f4330$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hcf7r7vl.fsf@jurta.org>
> >> I think TAB should be bound to lisp-complete-symbol
> >> in M-x eval-expression, aka M-: .
>
> I think the only problem preventing this change is...
> When this is fixed, it makes sense to allow TAB to
> complete a lisp symbol...
Uh, why? What's wrong with M-TAB or ESC TAB for Lisp symbol completion,
exactly as in a Lisp buffer? If it's good enough for there, and it's always
been good enough for here (minibuffer) in the past, why change it?
You complete a lot more symbols in a Lisp buffer than in the minibuffer with
M-:, and ESC TAB hasn't been a problem in a Lisp buffer, so far.
As I mentioned, I would rather see M-: take on _more_ of the character of
Emacs-Lisp mode, not less. If you want to spend energy improving M-:, then
let it act like a pop-up emacs-lisp-mode buffer, but with RET causing eval.
And let the value be pretty-printed. When that is realized, you will see the
utility of TAB to indent, just as in Emacs-Lisp mode.
There are several ways in which M-: might be improved, but I don't see
dedicating TAB to lisp-symbol completion to be one of them. That's a YAGNI,
IMO.
Just one opinion - I'm not crazy about this change, but I don't feel
strongly about it. It doesn't matter to me for my own use, because I use
Icicles anyway, but I think it's better for Emacs users to always think of
ESC TAB as the symbol-completion key. I don't see anything gained by this
change.
If you are looking for something for TAB to complete against in M-:, let it
be the items in `read-expression-history'. That, at least, is consistent
with other minibuffer completion: the entire minibuffer input is what is
completed, and then entered. Symbol completion is a different animal.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-15 23:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-13 17:30 Usability suggestion : completion for M-: paul r
2008-03-13 18:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-13 21:32 ` paul r
2008-03-13 21:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 23:32 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-13 23:49 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21 5:21 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-14 8:52 ` paul r
2008-03-15 21:36 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-15 23:35 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-03-15 23:43 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 8:12 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 11:00 ` paul r
2008-03-16 11:21 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-03-16 16:52 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 12:27 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 16:50 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 0:17 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-16 8:11 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 10:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 12:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 13:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 10:56 ` paul r
2008-03-16 16:49 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 18:42 ` paul r
2008-03-16 19:56 ` Bastien
2008-03-16 20:22 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-03-17 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 4:07 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-17 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 9:32 ` paul r
2008-03-17 19:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 9:19 ` paul r
2008-03-19 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-19 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-19 18:16 ` paul r
2008-03-19 19:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 18:49 ` paul r
2008-03-16 12:31 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 16:50 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-16 20:06 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-03-22 21:14 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-23 2:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-23 5:54 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-09 20:42 ` Paul R
2008-04-09 21:20 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 23:12 ` Juri Linkov
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